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Karl Austen
Partner, Jackoway Tyerman Wertheimer Austen Mandelbaum Morris & Klein


A Member Profile by Chris Davison,
chris@lthmedia.com
Karl Austen is a partner with the law firm of Jackoway Tyerman Wertheimer Austen Mandelbaum Morris & Klein. Karl began his career as a talent lawyer and has since worked in many areas of the business, from transactional law to new media to representation. I recently had a chance to interview Karl to discuss leverage, overall deals, and Seth MacFarlane.

Q: Can you tell us about your background and what made you want to work in Hollywood? how did you first get involved with the HRTS?
-I grew up in Boston and always had a passion for film and literature, which I studied at Amherst College.  I wanted to mesh my love of the arts with my ambitions as a businessman, and entertainment law seemed like a great profession for that. After Harvard Law School, I moved to LA and started as an entertainment transactional lawyer with Gipson Hoffman & Pancione. At Gipson, I was representing large film and television companies on behalf of the firm, but at the same time I started to develop my own relationships with young talented writers, actors and directors by helping them with their first deals. A number of those clients became very successful and kick-started my career as a talent lawyer. I quickly made the jump to what was then a different configuration of my current firm, Jackoway Tyerman, where I’ve steadily built my practice representing writers, actors and directors for the past 16 years.

Many of my clients regularly cross over between film and television and I recognized HRTS as a great resource for industry information and networking opportunities, so I started attending the luncheons and reading the newsletters.

Q: In terms of contract negotiations, how has producer/talent leverage changed over the past few years? how might it change over the next few?
-leverage has to be analyzed on a deal to deal basis. The conventional wisdom that the rich are getting richer and that leverage for the folks in the middle has lessened is pervasive; but the bottom line is that deals are harder to make for everyone today. The upshot is that if you represent someone who is marketable, who has proven value, or is rising in value, and, most importantly, who has the stomach to walk away if necessary, then you can still make a killer deal. That dynamic will never change no matter how much consolidation occurs among studios and financiers. Producer/talent leverage is also cyclical to some extent. Coming out of the strike over the past two years you practically had to draw blood to improve a client’s quote in television, but this year pilot season has already been much more exciting on the deal making front. 

Q: What are the most important considerations when negotiating a client’s deal and how are they different in television versus film?
-for any deal, whether film or television, you need to start with a clear understanding of your client's priorities balanced with your leverage in order to achieve the best possible result under the specific circumstances. Of course, it varies depending on what capacity your client is working in, but there is a smaller universe of possibility with most television deals. TV studios are married to quotes and budgets, and they work on an expedited schedule. So unless you’re negotiating an overall deal (which do still exist by the way) or handling a renegotiation, you focus on the bottom line, i.e., getting the most money upfront and defining the backend participation in a manner that your client will see real profits if a show is ultimately successful.

With features, the lead time is much longer and the parameters are typically more blurry, so you can have more time to be creative in your deal making. Every once in awhile though, you get a television deal that is a total game changer and requires the highest level of sophistication to make your client a true partner in a successful franchise (e.g., Raymond, Late Night, Seth/Fox).  The nuances of television deals at that level can equal millions of dollars and be more valuable than any first dollar participation on a feature (AVATAR aside, perhaps).

Q: What do you take away from the Seth MacFarlane/Google/MRC deal?
-first and foremost, that it’s not true that you can't make money with content on the Internet. We did. But, Seth is an incredibly unique talent, and he is particularly able to monetize his talents on the web with sponsored content. There are only a small handful of people who have managed to successfully accomplish it. The lesson for distributors is that, regardless of the distribution channel, you have to produce content that people want to watch. Seth understands how to do that.

Q: Any thoughts on the guild negotiations of 2011?
-whether or not it’s in 2011, I think it’s inevitable that talent has to meaningfully participate in the changing and expanding models of distribution. But, I also think it’s important to do it strategically with a real understanding of what those models are and how they are monetized.

 
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